Talk:Speak to her/@comment-1054960-20131016182831/@comment-3400522-20131017082306

As long as we don't complicate matters by bringing in rare defaults (if needed we can say rare failure?) I think it doesn't matter that much. Alternate successes are mainly where there's doubt whether it's rare or not. So as I see it it's a matter of judgement on a case by case basis.