Thread:Nedemmons/@comment-14876820-20130912174458/@comment-5607217-20130918104011

ZDee wrote: This is a general guide for low level to high level players, and it's posted on a public platform.

That sums up why I had to remove the Nadir-selling and fate-locked tips.

Specifics:

1) "General" means keeping the page clean and simple to memorize with repeatable options that are widely available to the player base. One-time-use options should not be included.

I understand why you'd want to list such options for Connected: the Masters since it's so difficult to raise. With this particular case, use your best judgment.

"The best way to gain this Connection is to progress through story as Master's worker - Suggest he take a more material view on The Loquacious Vicar's Great Work; Confront Unfinished pair for Mr.Pages; Follow Mr. Wine's order against F.F. Gebrandt; Betray the Cheesemonger to the Masters of the Bazaar; Frame innocent scholar for murder and have no guilt; and such."

Put those actions under an Expandible/Collapsible subsection in a neat bullet list format. Concisely note why they're hidden.

2) "Low level to high level" means leaving out unrelated and spoileriffic details like the Nadir-selling rewards. Other than the fact that many low/mid level readers may have just learned that they can sell the Cave of the Nadir's location, they now also know to whom. For what. And for how much. On a guide about raising Contact CP. That's kinda silly. Please don't write heavy spoilers for such high end content.

3) "Public platform" means that I'm sighing all over the fricking place. I have incredible difficulty believing that any of the editors who read Nedemmons' fate-locked bits thought that they were 100% acceptable.

"Of the Fate option, I saw Flute street one on that page and thought this was exception."

Flute Street is merely the name of a fate-locked area. Its name also isn't self-explanatory.

"Joining [story faction] give special card to gain fine amount of this connection by giving [this specific item] and [that specific item], but they are (Fate Locked)" is the sort of thing that blurs and pushes against the wiki's and FBG's joint policy against posting fate-locked narrative content. Anyone who edits here shares joint responsibility for upholding the policy.

Instead of FBG's hard way of placing good faith in us to be sensible and dependable, what's the easy way for them? They don't allow us to post ANY fate-locked content (no items, quality descriptions, pictures, and so on). What's an even easier way? They shut down the wiki. This isn't a passive aggressive threat or metaphor. It's the full reality.

Thanks for reading.

EDIT: I realize that Nedemmons is volunteering here with his free time to help the wiki and the player base. As a fellow editor and wiki user, I am quite grateful. Regardless, this is a very difficult time. All the wiki's contributors are on equal footing as editors. (Jemann, Aximillio and I may be administrative staff, but that simply means we're editors with a few extra buttons to press.) The wiki really needs all its editors to make secure judgment calls on content. I apologize for my thoughtlessness. I'll keep these in mind - Especially the part about writing about FATE options, unnecessary details, using Expandible/Collapsible sections for spoilers. I'll also read your Editing guidelines and try to understand this icon list format thing.