Thread:Adnoam/@comment-26115937-20180107133600/@comment-26115937-20180108160445

All good points

0a. Using something like Story probably does make more sense, you are right.

0b. Looking at the code of Stories and Quality the gain/loss subcategories and the default categories are the only differences as far as I can see. The default categories would be addressed by the quality type, anyway. So the only substantive difference is the gain/loss subcategories. So why not just include them in Quality with a switch parameter that's off by default?

1. Yes, but the only difference is, as you say, aesthetic. (In fact from the point of view of the engine there is hardly any difference between items and qualities - it's just presentational). The type of the quality determines things like - do they appear on the sidebar, do they have a custom change message and (lately, much to my annoyance) do they appear in the results panel at all! The latter, for example, is not something that would make sense for a wiki to reflect faithfully. The custom messages, I think, are better implemented by making changes to the Gain etc templates or indeed simply as manually typed messages (as i think we had discussed in one of the past threads).

2. That's the ideal, of course. But I think there are two counterarguments. Firstly, I am 95% confident FBG have abandoned ventures. They haven't introduced a new venture in (at least) 5 years. The last quality containing the word "venture" to be introduced (Venture Challenge Level) is of type Story (the default these days). There are currently only 21 ventures (including the retired ones) so while it's a little bit burdensome on editors to change them, once it's done it's unlikely to be an issue again. Secondly, looking at the code of Venture I am not sure it saves all that much. The actual progress and conclusion have to be typed in manually. The thing that it does automatically is to add the headings "Pursue your goal" and "The Conclusion!" but that is itself problematic because those are typically different storylets with different (albeit similar/related) names and I think should be documented as such.